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Visual Novels / Re: Tomoyo After

« on: September 30, 2012, 07:28:53 am »

That wall of text. o.O
I read it all, and only have one thing to say.



Oh, and about the adaptations... I heard there was one that was the same as ME but without D&T. Dunno if we're talking about the same, though.

For the other version, all I know is that the Memorial Edition has no H scenes and is 50% more longer. I have no idea if D&T is in it but to be honest, it's not that important to me. All I want is more Tomoyo.

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Visual Novels / Re: Tomoyo After

« on: September 28, 2012, 05:54:59 am »

First of all, thank you very much for this translation. I know I haven't been waiting as long as most people but it doesn't mean my gratitude is any lesser.

Secondly, I doubt it but I would still love to know but is this the english patch for the Memorial Edition or does it only cover the normal game? I am not too sure of how it works exactly so forgive my ignorance.

Finally, considering the endings

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I absolutely loved the game. I was really sad when I saw Tomoya dying after all the trouble that they went through. The game served to reaffirm that Tomoyo is easily the best character of Clannad for what she did at the end. To be honest, I was quite depressed at the ending and that Tomoyo had to live such hardship even if she was able to overcome it. Having read the manga prior to playing the Visual Novel, I knew what to expect yet I couldn't refrain myself from feeling it. I loved the way the manga handled his death just like I loved how the Visual Novel did.

When I heard that the PS2 version and Memorial Edition had a happier ending where they live together, I was overjoyed and tried to see the ending in question. I couldn't find any even in Japanese. I am currently trying to download the Memorial Edition in hope that the patch will work.

As I went to bed yesterday, I started thinking about the ending and when I woke up this morning, I remembered what Tomoyo did with her computer. I remembered that she would be helping people online and that was proven also at the end. I also remembered that Tomoya was able to wish Nagisa back to life after helping multiple people. While by no mean official or anything, the way I interpreted the ending was that Tomoyo overcame Tomoya's loss and made out to help people on the Internet. Surely she would be able to gather enough happiness from those she helped to get enough light orbs to wish Tomoya back to life. At first, I though that the whole 3 years thing was absolutely unnecessary if Tomoya died in the end but now that I think about it after letting my emotions calm down a bit, I understand it was a vital experience for her as it made her a stronger person just like Tomoya became a stronger person after meeting her. I believe that my ending does not negate that strength she gained but instead made it so she finally gained the reward she deserved. Happiness.

Now that I finally finished both Nagisa/Ushio story and Tomoyo's. I can safely say that Tomoya becomes a better person in Tomoyo's and that they make a much better couple. Throughout the game, Tomoya is willing to sacrifice everything he has to make people happier around him. In the VN just like in the manga, before he dies, his only concern is not for himself but for the girl he loved as he is afraid of leaving her alone as he knows just how weak she can be.

Thanks for listening to me, now I'm off to try and find the Memorial Edition while crossing my fingers in hope that the English patch works.

No, my friend, the english patch will not work for ME. But fear not! It will come... well, it will come eventually. It has been said that it's the next thing they'll do after they return from their well deserved rest; work on the new scenes in the Memorial Edition.

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Your comments on the end moved me. ;_;

Yeah, after a replay and a couple of days, I could appreciate it better too. As I said before, I completely agree in that Tomoyo has/will collect enough KarmaPoints™ to wish him back to life. I was absolutely overjoyed too, when I heard about the ME ending.



My reaction to the three year thing was... pure shock. Really, it hit me like a sack of bricks. To think she had been supporting him all by herself in the last year, masking her sadness and desperation with a smile to try and make him remember. And then, he falling in love with her again and his determination to remember even if he might lose his life. Really, they deserve a happy end. ; 3;

After my post I've been searching about the Memorial Edition and ended up on a post saying they were playing on translating it. I was overjoyed of course. But thanks for clarifying that for me!

I also saw that they had released a Consumer Safe version for PS3 but I think the Memorial Edition is the same  but I would love a confirmation for that as I might have to import it (200$ yikes!) and learn Japanese to play it.

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I am now playing the whole Dungeons and Takafumi and it's pretty nice. Still very excited for the Memorial Edition but if Tomoyo waited 3 years for Tomoya, I can wait for the Memorial Edition!

To be honest, I never thought I would write that much XD I started writing and then next thing I know, it's already a couple of paragraphs. Oh well, when you are passionate about something, you suddenly have a lot to write about it. I've always been a sucker for romance and when I saw Tomoyo in Clannad, I immediately wanted more of her and ended up disappointed that Nagisa was the main romance even though it was to be expected from the start of the anime. My favorite episodes from the anime all had a thing in common; Tomoyo and my favorite was her OVA.

When I learned about the Visual Novel, I kept searching for it and finally found it after many days. Naturally, my first playthrough was with Tomoyo. Her route was even better than the anime as we clearly see the thoughts of Tomoya and how she changed him. Even though I had seen it multiple times, it broke my heart when Tomoya broke up with her even though I knew it was only because he loved her so much. I remember seeing someone bash Tomoya from the OVA because he seemed weaker than Nagisa's Tomoya but I can safely say that he matured so much from Tomoyo's influence.

Tomoyo was always my favorite character from Clannad. She looks so tough at first when you first see her beating a bunch of thugs yet as you start to get close to her you realize just how weak she can be. She can be manly at times yet be so feminine at other times. Her portrayal in the Tomoyo After manga show that duality even more. I loved the scene where she just jumps on Tomoya right after he got his accident and her chibi like face. It's so awesome and funny. Or these scenes in the VN whenever Takafumi interrupted them. She truly is awesome as a character.

The only thing I didn't really like in the VN was that if you try to find another way to make Tomo stay with her mother (on August the 12th when you talk to Kanoko in the scrapyard) you end up with the bad ending where it is implied the relation between Tomoyo and Tomoya becomes more physical than emotional. I could have understand had I chose to purse her body like on the 14th but that one chance kind of bugs me because I was still trying to find another way.

That's pretty much the only bad point I have with the Visual Novel, I loved everything else, the music was particularly poignant at times. I have many things I would have love to seen though such as Tomo, Tomoya and Tomoyo becoming a happy family after Tomo's mother dies but I'm pretty sure that her mother will live longer now that her daughter is with her. Her mother was given a worse role in the manga, when I played the VN I thought she had abandoned Tomo for no reason like in the manga but I was pretty shocked to learn she was sick and in Tomoya's place, I would have done the same thing even though it would have easily broke my heart to leave Tomo behind, even if it's for the best. Actually, I would have just loved an ending where Tomoya survives, they start a family and they grow old together like that couple Tomoya saw. I was pretty happy to see they married each other though and felt bad for Naoyuki who finally meets his son after 3 years only to see him die. That picture when Tomoyo and Tomoya are embraced naked during the night was so sweet though.

And I done it again o.O

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Visual Novels / Re: Tomoyo After

« on: September 28, 2012, 04:02:34 am »

First of all, thank you very much for this translation. I know I haven't been waiting as long as most people but it doesn't mean my gratitude is any lesser.

Secondly, I doubt it but I would still love to know but is this the english patch for the Memorial Edition or does it only cover the normal game? I am not too sure of how it works exactly so forgive my ignorance.

Finally, considering the endings

(click to show/hide)

I absolutely loved the game. I was really sad when I saw Tomoya dying after all the trouble that they went through. The game served to reaffirm that Tomoyo is easily the best character of Clannad for what she did at the end. To be honest, I was quite depressed at the ending and that Tomoyo had to live such hardship even if she was able to overcome it. Having read the manga prior to playing the Visual Novel, I knew what to expect yet I couldn't refrain myself from feeling it. I loved the way the manga handled his death just like I loved how the Visual Novel did.

When I heard that the PS2 version and Memorial Edition had a happier ending where they live together, I was overjoyed and tried to see the ending in question. I couldn't find any even in Japanese. I am currently trying to download the Memorial Edition in hope that the patch will work.

As I went to bed yesterday, I started thinking about the ending and when I woke up this morning, I remembered what Tomoyo did with her computer. I remembered that she would be helping people online and that was proven also at the end. I also remembered that Tomoya was able to wish Nagisa back to life after helping multiple people. While by no mean official or anything, the way I interpreted the ending was that Tomoyo overcame Tomoya's loss and made out to help people on the Internet. Surely she would be able to gather enough happiness from those she helped to get enough light orbs to wish Tomoya back to life. At first, I though that the whole 3 years thing was absolutely unnecessary if Tomoya died in the end but now that I think about it after letting my emotions calm down a bit, I understand it was a vital experience for her as it made her a stronger person just like Tomoya became a stronger person after meeting her. I believe that my ending does not negate that strength she gained but instead made it so she finally gained the reward she deserved. Happiness.

Now that I finally finished both Nagisa/Ushio story and Tomoyo's. I can safely say that Tomoya becomes a better person in Tomoyo's and that they make a much better couple. Throughout the game, Tomoya is willing to sacrifice everything he has to make people happier around him. In the VN just like in the manga, before he dies, his only concern is not for himself but for the girl he loved as he is afraid of leaving her alone as he knows just how weak she can be.

Thanks for listening to me, now I'm off to try and find the Memorial Edition while crossing my fingers in hope that the English patch works.